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Out of Fishing for Awhile


I want to let everyone know that I will not be able to fish in compitition indefinatley. The neck and arm pain I have been experiencing in due to many problems in my neck and spinal cord, nerves and structure. After an MRI it shows that I have 3 bulging discs compressing the spinal cord,3 bone spurs(one has grown all the way thru the spinal cord) leaving me with little to no feeling in my hands,disc narrowing at all levels, moderate spinal canal stenosis at all levels,moderate neural foraminal stenosis,bilateral neural foraminal stenosis, nerve damage at all levels and lastly multilevel degenserative disc disease. This MRI was just of my C spine and upper T spine.Now I know why the pain has been so bad for so long. I will be doing whatever needed to fish recreationally. I have not given up on the thought that I may still be able to fish some T's in the future.  Thank You ALL!

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You will my brother. Just got to get all of the kinks out first. Patience will be the hardest part of the ordeal.

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Keeping you in our prayers Lonnie. Hang in there and never give up fishing.

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Prayers sent Lonnie. Health before fishing, but remember that fishing can be a good therapy.

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Prayers buddy, if you need anything from us neighbors just let us know, feel for you.

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Prayers sent to you and your family. Cant imagine that kind of pain. My Fiance' just had emergency surgery yesterday on her back. She just had one disk and some fragments removed and i know how painful it has been for her. I do know that medicine has come along way in the area of the back and that doctors are able to do amazing things nowadays. I hope all goes well for you!!!!

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Sean; Sorry to hear Tric went thru that ordeal with her back. I will be going to the lake house Friday - Sunday so if she needs anything let me know. Be sure she has my cell phone # as well, Spring is not but 30 minutes away. She will be in our prayers for a quick and total recovery. Robert Theiry had that surgery about a month ago. I think the beating on Lake Conroe may have been a contributor. We all need to be careful with those waves and the impact they have on our backs.



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Thanks Terry!! Im in town for a few days.. Flew in on a whim to be here and get her set up. She is doing better and i hope i can get her settled by Monday. She should be fine after that. I gave her a few extra weeks to ge the driveway paved, so she should be fine!!biggrin

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Lonnie, wow, I will keep you in my prayers for healing !!!
Sean, you & your Fiance' will also be in my prayers - her's for healing,
recovery and yours for patience & understanding. That was the hardest
for me when my wife had her back surgery !!

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Lonnie and Tric our prayers are for ya'll.  I guess it comes in 3's. I also had an MRI today on my neck. Doc is looking at my C-6 area for problems since I had cracked it back in '83. Since the surgery on shoulder I have been having extreme pain radiating down my left arm and tingling in left hand. I just hope it can be fixed as I pray yours, Lonnie, can. Sean hope your girl recovers 100%.

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My thoughts and prayers go out to your lady Sean. You are right about the advances in todays medicine.I hope she does well post surgical and has no pain after healing. I thank all of you for your encouragement and kind words. Derek, you are so right about fishing be therapy.Fishing has been my safe place and "Peace of Mind" for over 45 years. I really can't imagine my life without fishing. I feel like I am just getting over the desire to compete in the fishing world when I got this news. Fishing is what I do,what I think about most and on the water is where I find God and at times a bit of peace,even through all the pain put in my path over the years. I am not one that asks for help but, I really appreciate those of you that offer. I may be selling my Harley if ya'll know anyone looking for a beautiful 03 Ultra Classic Electra Glide...100 year anniversary model in black with less than 10k miles on it. I was told that I would be a fool to ride again after my diagnosis. I would consider trading the Harley for a bass boat. Not what I want to do but may be in my best interest at this time.Thank you all again. I pray you are right Ron Gunter.

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NitroZ9 wrote:

Lonnie and Tric our prayers are for ya'll.  I guess it comes in 3's. I also had an MRI today on my neck. Doc is looking at my C-6 area for problems since I had cracked it back in '83. Since the surgery on shoulder I have been having extreme pain radiating down my left arm and tingling in left hand. I just hope it can be fixed as I pray yours, Lonnie, can. Sean hope your girl recovers 100%.



Just saw your post Glez. Prayers sent from the Corso's to you my friend. In my experience, the pain and sensation you describe IS from your neck. With that said,I am hoping it is carpal tunnel....your MRI will tell for sure. Take good care of yourself David. Please let us know what is found in that MRI.

 



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Lonnie, Tric and Glez; our prayers go out to you hoping that you'll get better soon. Getting healthy is very important and one of the key to our livelihood. So try to be patient and everything will be better before you know it.

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Prayers on behalf of Lonnie, Tric, and Glez. Hang in there.

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stricker77 wrote:

I gave her a few extra weeks to ge the driveway paved, so she should be fine!!biggrin



She is so lucky to have found a nice guy like you...


Seriously ....I hope all get and feel better very soon.



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Hope it gets better soon Lonnie.

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i feel your pain brother, my lower back is now fused cause of the same stuff, but it feels better than it has in years after the reconstruction and alot of work and rehab! if you need the name of a awesome back doctor who can fix you and get you back to fishing again let me know! i had alot of the same stuff you do and he fixed it up. prayers to everyone having problems! heck i could use some myself! been a rough year and then on the way home the other night from work i got rear ended AGAIN! people just love hitting my work trucks and jackin me up! lol

Someone told me once during a really rough time in life "god will not put more on your plate then he thinks you can handle" those words have got me through alot in life and still do! but durn he must think i am one tough SOB! hahaha

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Amen to prayer and my prayers go out to all in need; the sick, hurt and the injured. I pray for healing and comfort to all. I pray for my mom who just had her knee replaced yesterday. I praise God in advance for answered prayers. Amen. <'>< 

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Thanx Aaron....It looks like I will be seeing a neuro surgeon since that is the type of surgeon I have used many times before. The doctors name is Richard Harper in Houston,he is rated one of the best neuro surgeons in the United States, number 17 and had done surgery for Mrs. Bush not long ago. This is not my first rodeo. Depending on the safety aspect of the condition of my C-Spine, I may not opt for surgery. This type of surgery is not easy and I am aware of the long term disability I could be left with, since I have lived with major pain issues for 20 years now.

Terry....My prayers goin up for your Mom.May she have a full and complete recovery. AMEN!

I am curious what the results are from Glezmans MRI. David would you please let me know what was found?

I feel for anyone that has suffered pain and discomfort from injuries and surgeries.

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Bassdad wrote:

I am curious what the results are from Glezmans MRI. David would you please let me know what was found?

I feel for anyone that has suffered pain and discomfort from injuries and surgeries.



Lonnie the MRI came back showing some issues in the C4, 5, 6, 7, & 8. The main problem is the disk between the C7 and C8 which is bulging toward the back of my neck. It is the culprit that is causing the pain, numbness and tingling in my left ring finger and little finger. I am having a "x-ray controlled" injection in my neck next Tuesday that is to help reduce the disk bulge. The doc also gave me a bunch of drugs to control the pain and relax the muscles.

Look at the bassmaster web page. Byron Velvick just went through a surgery simular to what I have but 10 X worse.

 



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So this injection into the bulging disc will be done under the flourascope? I am interested in how that works out for you Glez. I have had injections but, not into the disc itself. With 3 bulging discs I think I need that info before surgery. I would really rather have injections to reduce the bulging discs instead of surgery, if i could get some kind of positive results. I will be talkin with you David. Is this being done locally?


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No sooner did I post the above and Shelly calls to tell me that Dr. Richard Harper will NOT consider doing surgery on me cause I have fusions done by another Neuro Surgeon. I am however sending him all my medical history, he said he would help me if he can. Meaning he will help me find someone that can help me with my neck issues.

David Glezman, would you please email me the info for who and what is going to be done for your disc problem? I need options! All my surgeries and treatments have been done in N.California and San Fransisco, I am at the mercy of friends here to help me find a doctor that will help me. Bassdad1@yahoo.com Thank You Glez.

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Bassdad wrote:

So this injection into the bulging disc will be done under the flourascope? I am interested in how that works out for you Glez. I have had injections but, not into the disc itself. With 3 bulging discs I think I need that info before surgery. I would really rather have injections to reduce the bulging discs instead of surgery, if i could get some kind of positive results. I will be talkin with you David. Is this being done locally?


-- Edited by Bassdad on Thursday 27th of January 2011 11:14:47 AM



Lonnie I will keep you posted if it does any good. After yesterday I can't wait. Had a bad pain day.
The doctor is in Sadler Clinic (Bishai) and the procedure is being done at the Sadler location on Pinecroft in the Woodlands.
This is kinda became a little scary because after reading the article by Byron Velvick I realized that my condition is simular to his but not as severe.

 



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I think Byron's problem was due to his now ex-wife from The Bachelor beating him up all the time.

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I had a corotzone shot for my back - bulging disk a few years ago and it lasted for a couple months. Best thing for me is to not do anything to worsen the situation. Boat rides can really do that if you are not careful. I am working on making me a cushion out of that memory foam to be used during those tournament days I have to take a beating.



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If your using Sadler your problems are just beginning..........

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I hope I don't get old like you guys.  Terry, this may work for you...

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Derek;
  Where did you find that cushion ??? I, too, maybe interested in
getting one - make the wave/boat pounding a little more bearable
and produce less havoc on the body !!!

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Derek; I have heard of circle of hope but that is taking it to the "end". 



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David wrote:

If your using Sadler your problems are just beginning..........



DW...All kidding aside. Is there something wrong with Sadler Clinics? I am currently at the mercy of people that have had dealings with doctors here in S.E.Texas. I need REAL info about health care providers in this area,where we all live. Comments like yours make me very weary of places I might end up being treated at. If you know something about Sadler,or,any other hospitals or clinics that is NOT good, I need to know about that and what is Not good about a place. Please remember that for 17 years I was treated by the same doctors and now I have to find doctors that may be able to help me. So please DW, can we be honest here in this thread so I don't question every single doctor,hospital and clinics quality and care. I am dealing with my life here and the truth would be very helpful in finding a doctor to help me get to the other side of this nightmare. Thank You my friend and Brother.

 



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Lonnie; You may want to check the Texas Orthopedic Hospital website out. I have heard they are the best at what they do. I have no specific doctor recommendation but the list of doctors there are some of the best. My mom is there now after having her knee replaced. They also specialize in spine injuries etc.. She says they have been great.

http://texasorthopedic.com/home/index.dot


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Sadler IMHO is worthless when it comes to healthcare. Two years ago when I was having problems all they wanted to give me were drugs, muscle relaxants, pain killers, drugs, drugs, and more drugs, without finding the issues that were the cause of all the problems, heck they didn't even have the audacity or capacity to do a simple examination, not even blood pressure, worthless, worthless!! Three different doctors all Sadler, got new doctor, Dr. Mary Beth Moore out of Conroe, problem:  Severe Obstructive and Central Sleep Apnea, blood oxygen saturation was 71%, I was at very high risk of heart attack and stroke, the doctors we're and are complete idiots at Sadler. I have never met a doctor as thorough as Dr. Moore(takes time to listen). At Sadler you are nothing more than a bank giving money away. I once saw a sign on I-45 that was advertising: "Don't take your heart to Houston" I say don't let your brain take you to Conroe! There is a reason they are practing medicine at Sadler, yes they graduated from med school, but I'll bet in the lower class GPA.


......and I was not making a joke of anything, Sadler is Piss Poor!

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Dr. Kreutzer out of Houston did my dad's hip replacement surgery, no rehab, I'd bet he knows a good back doctor.

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Thank you Terry and DW. I need a Neuro Surgeon as my C-Spine(neck)and arms is where I am having the most pain and discomfort right now. My fears are that I see an orthopedic surgeon and they mess me up worse than I already am. Being that the neck is so close to the brain and central nervous system I need a surgeon well versed in my type of needs. Every neuro surgeon I have talked with says do not allow anyone but a neuro surgeon work on you. I know there are great orthopedic doctors out there but, they work on backs,knees,shoulders and the like,not necks as a practice.This is just how critical my situation has become....Even Neuro Surgeon Dr. Richard Harper won't touch me cause someone else did my previous neck surgeries. It's much more touchy than a back surgery. I will need back surgery too but, one thing at a time right now.I am so overwhelmed by this whole deal that I am beginning to find myself almost frozen with fear. I don't want to return to California to have surgeries when there are so many great and capable doctors right here in the Houston area.Houston is one of the best places to find great medical care, not my words but the words of health care professionals all over the country.

I'm sorry you got half ass treatment DW......

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Terry....I am looking at the site you listed and they have an amazing history. I will be checkin them out to see if anyone can help me.Thank You again my friend!

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Lonnie first of all I use Sadler Clinic and Conroe Regional because that is where my insurance provides my coverage.
I have a huge medical jacket at Sadler and Conroe Regional dating back to 2000 when I was diagnoised with cancer. There are "some" doctors at Sadler that are as DW described but there are some that take pride in their profession. I could give you names of some to not walk away from, but run. Recently I have found a internal medicine doctor, Ryan Holmes, that is a doctor that takes pride. He is my primary doctor and is treating me for the diabetes. When he meets with you he doesn't even carry a script pad and sits down and discusses your problem and actually performs a hands on exam instead of allowing you to self diagnois yourself and then give you drugs. Another doctor that I owe my life to is my oncologist, John Carwile, who now is heading the research place that Connie Curlee works at. My orthopedic doctor is Clay Fischer at the Sadler Clinic annex in the Woodlands. I am reserving his rating at this time until I get this shoulder and neck problem fixed.
As with any area there are some good doctors and a bunch of bad doctors that are in the profession for the money. As for hospitals, I must say I would rather go to Conroe Regional than Herman Memorial in the Woodlands. That hospital sucks in a major way. When Stacy was there I went to find a nurse and walked the whole wing before I found one. Then she informed me she was the only nurse on that whole wing. They also almost killed Stacy by giving here medicines that she is allergic to.
In all I hate hospitals and doctors but can't live without them.

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Glez you are so right. Every city has good and bad doctors. I think that we may have beat this subject to death already and I am no closer to a decision than when I started this. I do know that being overwhelmed is no place to get stuck,so, for now I am gonna take the advice of Dr. Harper in Houston, whatever his advise is.He is a competent and well known Neuro Surgeon with 30 plus years of experience. I won't hear from him till next week sometime, since I will be sending him all my scans and personal history on Monday. I am in a hurry to get this fixed. As you know pain is very difficult to deal with on a daily basis. I can't even sleep due to the pain, that will destroy ones life in short order. I really do appreciate you taking the time to help me out.I look forward to how things go with your injection. If I am in limbo for much longer I will be seeking epidural injections to get me thru till I know more about what can be done about my situation. I will talk with ya soon David....You have been through hell with your health. I now wish I had taken you up on partnering to fish together,we would be one hellava team. Dealing with pain daily can change a person,I believe it has changed me some over the years.

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Lonnie;
   You might check out the Baylor web site for a list of spinal specialists !!

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Thank You Russell.....I am actively looking at this time.

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Lonnie first of all I use Sadler Clinic and Conroe Regional because that is where my insurance provides my coverage.
I have a huge medical jacket at Sadler and Conroe Regional dating back to 2000 when I was diagnoised with cancer. There are "some" doctors at Sadler that are as DW described but there are some that take pride in their profession. I could give you names of some to not walk away from, but run. Recently I have found a internal medicine doctor, Ryan Holmes, that is a doctor that takes pride. He is my primary doctor and is treating me for the diabetes. When he meets with you he doesn't even carry a script pad and sits down and discusses your problem and actually performs a hands on exam instead of allowing you to self diagnois yourself and then give you drugs. Another doctor that I owe my life to is my oncologist, John Carwile, who now is heading the research place that Connie Curlee works at. My orthopedic doctor is Clay Fischer at the Sadler Clinic annex in the Woodlands. I am reserving his rating at this time until I get this shoulder and neck problem fixed.
As with any area there are some good doctors and a bunch of bad doctors that are in the profession for the money. As for hospitals, I must say I would rather go to Conroe Regional than Herman Memorial in the Woodlands. That hospital sucks in a major way. When Stacy was there I went to find a nurse and walked the whole wing before I found one. Then she informed me she was the only nurse on that whole wing. They also almost killed Stacy by giving here medicines that she is allergic to.
In all I hate hospitals and doctors but can't live without them.



For future reference they have a nurse call button by the bed, just saying.

 



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DW that is the problem. No one would answer the damn thing. They can't answer if no one is at the nurses station. A few days after she was discharged we started getting calls from the hospital legal department because they thought we were going to sue their asses. I guess we should have.

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Well had the epedural injection into my neck yesterday (OUCH). After the injection I was ordered to go home and lay still in the bed for the rest of the day. When the lanacane (sp) wore off it felt like a bumble bee stung me.
This morning I feel pretty good but the doc said it would be several days before I really see the difference. If I don't see any relief after 2 weeks then the procedure might need to be repeated. At least right now I am not feeling that burning between my shoulder blades.
So Lonnie so far so good. I will keep you posted and all others who are having the same problem.

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Thanx David. I hope this injection works for you,then I may have hope that it could work for me also. This pain is like nothing I have experienced the last 21 years since breaking my neck and low back. I did fish for a few hours last Saturday and that felt pretty good.I did however have to fight the pain till I could take no more, then went home and was in bed the rest of the day. I do have high expectations that I will find someone to help me.

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BassAm wrote:

I hope I don't get old like you guys.  Terry, this may work for you...

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Derek...I don't want you to think that what is wrong with my body comes from age. I raced motocross and desert for years along with some dirt track modifieds. I also rode bulls in the RCA(Rodeo Cowboy Association) for 4 years. So by the time I broke my neck and low back I had already been tore up pretty bad. Just take care of your body and you will be okay my friend.

 



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My new "Pain Management" doctor, Dr. Bishai(David Glezman's doctor)has ordered a full spine MRI and an EMG due to some new issues that have surfaced. I will keep ya'll in the loop as I get info I will post it. Thanx Glez for telling me about Dr.Bishai, what a nice and caring doctor that actually listens. If I had not been a member of this fine club I may have never known about this doctor and his abilities to help me.

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Sounds like prayers are working. Stay positive I know all will be better for you. Keeping you in my prayers. Amen.



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I want to update ya'll on my medical status,I don't like posting something then leavin everyone in the dark. My neck cannot be fixed, it is plain worn out. We can manage the pain and that's it. As for the tumor on my spinal cord, that's a different story. It is growing thru and around the spinal cord and surgery is not an option at this time. My neurosurgeon and I along with Shelly,my Wife met to discuss this. Due to it's location we will have to wait awhile before revisiting this discussion.I will wait till February 2012 to have another MRI and see if the tumors status has changed, hopefully it has and I can have this removed. It's very taxing to know something invasive is attacking my spine and spinal cord and I can do nothing to fight back. I have been able to fish some, but the discomfort is becoming bothersome and painful. I am having trouble setting the hook due to pain.If I set a dry hook the pain is almost intolerable. I know there are club members that can relate to my situation. I am doing all I can to stay moving so I can continue to fish.

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I feel for you Lonnie. My back is a mess but it is nothing to compare to the problems you are having. Hope and pray it will get to a point that they can get you some relief.

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Prayers sent for you and Shelly.

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Thanx guys! Terry, the way I look at pain is this.If you are in pain, it's bad cause it's your pain.I don't believe that my pain is any worse that anyone elses, it's pain and it's uncomfortable to whoever is experiencing it. Your pain is relevant to you, your family and loved ones. Pain is a terrible thing to deal with no matter who's pain it is. So Terry, I say a prayer for you and your family. If you ever need help with ANYTHING you can always call on me.If I physically can't help I will tell you.

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